{"id":2272,"date":"2004-12-06T13:53:15","date_gmt":"2004-12-06T13:53:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.leobard.net\/blog\/?p=2272"},"modified":"2017-11-04T15:52:14","modified_gmt":"2017-11-04T15:52:14","slug":"answer-to-miltiadis","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.leobard.net\/blog\/2004\/12\/06\/answer-to-miltiadis\/","title":{"rendered":"answer to Miltiadis"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.sigsemis.org\/bulletinboard\/sw2004\/802850566123\">Miltiadis D. Lytras posted questions<\/a> about how the Semantic Web did in 2004.<\/p>\n<p>in good spirit of public discussion, i hereby blog my answer to his <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sigsemis.org\/bulletinboard\/sw2004\/802850566123\">questions<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><b>1.      What was the Key achievement for Semantic Web in 2004?<\/b><br \/>\nAPIs. Forget the scientific glass-tower. Jena 2.0, Redland, Sesame, &#8230; that&#8217;s what counts and thats what makes things like <a href=\"http:\/\/crschmidt.net\/julie\/\">Julie<\/a> work. APIs enable developers to make products for people. Products that let people author RDF, publish RDF and use published RDF.<br \/>\n<b><br \/>\n2.      Which was the key technological achievement concerning SW for 2004?<\/b><br \/>\nWidespread FOAF usage. Even TimBl mentioned FOAF in interviews. That&#8217;s ontology work alive.<\/p>\n<p><b>3.      A title of a research paper published in 2004 with great impact<br \/>\nfor SW Research.<\/b><br \/>\nhm. Nothing real new this year? Well, I quote myself: &#8220;Using Semantic Web technologies to build a Semantic Desktop&#8221;<\/p>\n<p><b>4.      An event (during 2004) that you evaluated of great importance for<br \/>\nSW.<\/b><br \/>\nFOAF Camp, Enschede, Holland. August.<\/p>\n<p><b>5.      A project \/ project deliverable that you evaluated as of critical importance for SW, in 2004.<\/b><br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.foaf-project.org\">http:\/\/www.foaf-project.org<\/a>  thats where we come together.<\/p>\n<p><b><br \/>\n6.      Which is the Key obstacle that you anticipate as the &#8216;battlefield&#8217; for the evolution of SW?<\/b><br \/>\nHot air coming from people that talk about &#8220;inference&#8221; while there is no widespread data available they can do their inference on. For me it sounds like &#8220;inferiour&#8221; than inference. Forget inference and OWL, stick to low tech RDF-S and procedural programming to get the SW lift off the ground.<\/p>\n<p>Ontologies written by people that do not code. They are crap. Without a reference implementation, OWL or RDF-S ontologies are useless. You hit the nerve only when you build a useful application that makes its data available in the ontology. Only an application shows how the ontology should be used correctly. See DubliCoren: half of the terms are vague and are used wildly.<\/p>\n<p>URL discussions. Much hot air on RDF-IG about what a URL denotes and why we should use URIs but no solution. As long as some people wait for the &#8220;perfect&#8221; system that uses unambigous URIs, nothing will be built at all. Gnowsis on the other hand goes the practical way: use changing URLs to identify stuff and begin coding SW today.<\/p>\n<p>btw: there is no inference engine that can work in a global, distributed, semantic web. i.e. <\/p>\n<pre>?x &lt;rdf:type&gt; &lt;foaf:Person&gt; <\/pre>\n<p>would take an hour on my machine&#8230;. <\/p>\n<p><b>7.      A Business case that SW proved its capacity to solve real world problems.<\/b><br \/>\nVendor independent social networking solved by foaf (isntead of orkut, friendster, etc). <br \/>\nNews aggregation by RSS. that was real a kicker.<\/p>\n<p><b><br \/>\n8.      How did you saw the AIS SIGSEMIS Activities? What would you like from us the next year?<\/b><br \/>\nPeer review. Part of the articles was very simple. I.e. &#8220;component requirements for a universal Semantic Web Framework&#8221; &#8211; without a reference implementation this is rather speculative. We gnawed on this in practice (www.gnowsis.org). So I would like two things:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>peer review<\/li>\n<li>theories proved by reference implementations<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Miltiadis D. Lytras posted questions about how the Semantic Web did in 2004. in good spirit of public discussion, i hereby blog my answer to his questions. 1. What was the Key achievement for Semantic Web in 2004? APIs. Forget the scientific glass-tower. 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